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The Man From Snowy River Australian Founder's Membership ~ Announced
littlebelle:
Ok but how many of those are like VMK_Sparkie or VMK_The guy who made the pins. And really with the other more important issues the drain on your computer for the longer you stay in VFK. The problem with fireworks that some with Vista and not play as well. Not being able to sit or stack. How many producers staff etc. Is really at the bottom of the list. Might help to prove peoples points they are not to be trusted. But how many staff are there really does not affect my bird game. Only when it is busted and it takes them all day to notice!!!! It does not want me to give more money because there are supposedly more staff. Trusted or not they are really behind the 8 ball. Without some of these basic functions there is no game down the road.
This is not a wake up and smell the coffee well at least on this board. We are very well aware of the major downfalls of VFK. We decided to take the risk and support them. The only thing we have lost if it does not work is 45.00. Our credit cards are fine. I have lost $45.00 on much more stupid ideas and spending.
But I will not be joining the Australia Founders.
Bugdozer:
--- Quote from: littlebelle on July 21, 2008, 09:13 AM ---Ok but how many of those are like VMK_Sparkie or VMK_The guy who made the pins. And really with the other more important issues the drain on your computer for the longer you stay in VFK. The problem with fireworks that some with Vista and not play as well. Not being able to sit or stack. How many producers staff etc. Is really at the bottom of the list. Might help to prove peoples points they are not to be trusted. But how many staff are there really does not affect my bird game. Only when it is busted and it takes them all day to notice!!!! It does not want me to give more money because there are supposedly more staff. Trusted or not they are really behind the 8 ball. Without some of these basic functions there is no game down the road.
This is not a wake up and smell the coffee well at least on this board. We are very well aware of the major downfalls of VFK. We decided to take the risk and support them. The only thing we have lost if it does not work is 45.00. Our credit cards are fine. I have lost $45.00 on much more stupid ideas and spending.
But I will not be joining the Australia Founders.
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The point I was trying to make is that I am hearing people justify the $47 more because there is so many staff to play-they maybe should justify it by saying the need the money to fix x y and z that would make more sense to me. Seems to me that VFK has gotten very quiet on their updates to keep players posted on what is going on. Also what do you mean by "we decided to take the risk and support them" ? Do you mean "we" as in the board or we as in some of the players?
Did not know bird game is broke as I have not played it recently-sorry to hear this as many get their credits from just this game. I have not played for a while so I have probably forgotten all the birds.
Bug
Adventuredaz:
Bug you make valid points, as does Littlebelle. I will clarify for Belle, when she says “we” she is speaking in general terms about people that have evaluated everything they know about the game and decided to join. Each person has made his or her own decision and most of us don’t even know who else joined. Bug I like the graphics in VFK but are in no way better then VMK and are very lacking in areas such as the avatars. I think we have to remember that liking or disliking graphics is pretty subjective and individual.
I do believe that at this point they have delivered enough to say it is not a scam and they are there to rip us off, this is different then they are in it for our money and they want as much of our money as they can get. That does not mean I like that and it does indicate a bit of greed or desparation on their part. I am not sure which is better – neither are good signs.
I do also believe they have an Australian group of developers/investors and staff that have joined – while this has happened some known staff are MIA i.e. Groovy. I think they do have close to 50 staff – many are most likely generally behind the scenes but they but them in the game now and then. Most seem pretty personable – without saying they are necessarily qualified to moderate. I don’t think this fact or anything else justifies needing more money from people that already paid. Nor do I think its my problem if they need more money to fix problem X, Y, Z – I paid already – you sold it – you fix it. While they have added people from Australia – I doubt this is marketed at Ausie people any more then this was not aimed at VMK players. Where have we ever seen this advertised? Could people from Australia not previously access the site??? I am pretty sure they could and I doubt they have a huge following that jumped on once Australia opened. While it isn’t a scam it is clearly a tricky scheme – they know most that pay will be people that already have paid. We continue to have no guarantee they will survive and I will not give them anything else until we reach the end of the current membership and this will depend on if they have fully progressed. I think as a group we could easily make a list of what they need to do to make this game more enjoyable but even if they implemented everything, it still would not ensure they would survive.
Disney Dreams:
I am very curious of 1 thing from anyone who paid for the Founders Package.
Are you offended at this new Founder's Package?
If I purchased a special deal under a 48 hour time-pressure sale only to turn around 2 weeks later and see almost the same offer being made again to others (and yes, I know it is not the exact same deal), I would feel somewhat, "What the ?!?!?"
I did not purchase the Founders Package for many reasons, including that I do not think the game is in a stage that deserves money and I do not care to pay to support early development phases. (Not judging anyone who did - I have wonderful friends who paid and that's their choice.) If I DID purchase under the 48 hour push, I would be really GRRR upon seeing this new offer.
How are those of you that are Founders Members feeling about this?
Thanks to any who choose to reply,
Dreams
Adventuredaz:
--- Quote from: Disney Dreams on July 21, 2008, 10:42 AM ---I am very curious of 1 thing from anyone who paid for the Founders Package.
Are you offended at this new Founder's Package?
If I purchased a special deal under a 48 hour time-pressure sale only to turn around 2 weeks later and see almost the same offer being made again to others (and yes, I know it is not the exact same deal), I would feel somewhat, "What the ?!?!?"
I did not purchase the Founders Package for many reasons, including that I do not think the game is in a stage that deserves money and I do not care to pay to support early development phases. (Not judging anyone who did - I have wonderful friends who paid and that's their choice.) If I DID purchase under the 48 hour push, I would be really GRRR upon seeing this new offer.
How are those of you that are Founders Members feeling about this?
Thanks to any who choose to reply,
Dreams
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Offended is a bit strong, but yes not suprised however except that they actually called it a "founder" program - mainly because as members we felt we were promissed we would have access to all item. I think it should just been aand Auustralian member package - no founder and then other members should have been offered the oportunity to buy the items with credits. I feel this borders on a breach of the original agreement - if only it was writen clearly and concrete. Does the breach nullify the agreement? I am not sure but it will effect future decisions.
I will continue to be supportive of the game and of people that chose to play. Playing this game is just as much a free choice as chosing to play Secondlife or Dizzywood two extreams but as time goes on I will not be surprized many of us continue to search for home. I like the Fireworks game but still want more of a "game" selection in the game. If a second incarnation of VMK ever came we would probably all exit whatever we were doing to go play and be very willing to pay.
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